Episode 119: Questions are a gateway to growth with Julie Merrill

Meagan Skidmore – hey, everyone welcome to the beyond the shadow of doubt. Podcast.

Today, I am so pleased for you to get to know my guest, Julie Merrill.

I first met Julie as I was going through certification at the live coach school.

Julie is an amazing live coach who worked and still works there

as a live coach, and I reached out to you

not too long ago.

and you graciously agreed to come and be interviewed. So thank you so much. Welcome.

Julie – You are so welcome. Thanks for having me so fun.

Meagan – It’s a treat to have you. Yeah.

So I’ve already shared with everybody that you’re a life coach, and you have been for some time.

Can you just share a little bit more of your background with us? Kind of tell us

about Julie, your family, your origin story, your faith of upbringing and.

Julie – Yeah, and.

Meagan – Anything.

Julie – You bet. I grew up in a small town in Colorado, Durango, Colorado, and grew up

and am still an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. So group, pretty conservative.

Went to Rick’s College, met my husband there. We went to Byu.

Lived in Spanish Fork, Utah, Logan, Utah, then Lubbock, Texas, for 18 years, and we are currently in Las Vegas, Nevada so

lived in a lot of great places, met a lot of amazing people, and I think,

we have 5 children. I’m I. We have 5 children, and I think when our youngest was in probably middle school. I was like, Okay, what am I gonna do with my life? I’d done a few odd jobs here and there, but I remember

coming upon the life, coach, school, podcast and thinking. Oh, I had no idea that, like I could actually choose

what to think

and change thoughts. And and it was all a very new concept to me, so.

Meagan – And.

Julie – 2,000

19. I joined that program and became a coach in May of 2020. And I’ve worked with the worked for and with the school ever since. So

I went through mastercoach training. And

yeah, it’s been an amazing experience.

Meagan – So you started at the school in 2020.

Julie – yes, I’m coming up on 4 years now.

Meagan – That’s the year I started certification. So I did not realize that you were

so new.

Julie – Yeah, yeah, it’s been an amazing journey. I’ve loved every minute of it.

Meagan – You’re an amazing coach.

Julie – Thank you.

Meagan – So, apart from working at the live coach school, you also have your own coaching business. Yes.

Julie – Yes, I am a sex educator and coach. For women.

I grew up not even really being taught about sex or sexuality, or anything like that. I mean, it was the seventies and eighties. I think it was a very taboo subject to

talk about ever and

I think through

marriage and having children and thinking this is supposed to be

great part of life, and it’s not. And we had a lot of struggles which I I think most couples do? Because.

Especially if you grow up in a conservative faith, and nothing is talked about. I mean, I think there are struggles because we just don’t have knowledge, and so.

Meagan – No.

Julie – A few years ago it was made very clear to me that this was definitely the path that I wanted to go and help women

figure it out.

Meagan – That’s awesome. As soon as you said the word sex, like, it’s yeah, the seventies and eighties, the Gen. Xers. Yeah, we just didn’t talk about it. Not much, and so like you said there wasn’t a lot of information, but

even if it was brought up there was generally it was taboo. There was often shame associated with it. Or was

just less okay to talk about for sure.

Julie – Right, and I mean we there probably were books. I remember when I got engaged my mom put a book on my bed. Called the act of marriage, and it was helpful, for, like even knowing what sex was cause, I don’t even think I knew what that was. Even in high school. I didn’t know I didn’t hang out with people who talked about it much, and if they did, I didn’t get it.

And so it was just I mean, I was just very nice.

Meagan – I love that. You’re just being totally honest about it. I mean, it’s true when you’re raised. Conservative. Yeah.

Julie – Yeah, I mean, I had the the maturation talk in fifth grade and the health class in eleventh grade. And basically, the health class was basically how to not get pregnant and all the different kinds of Birth control.

But I didn’t know anything about my parts, about anything, even about a male’s anatomy. I knew a little bit, but I I just didn’t know how it all worked together. And

that was just kind of my story. And

it’s okay, I think so many of us have gone through that, and our parents were never taught to educate us that way. Their parents probably didn’t tell them. I mean there. There are some exceptions, but I don’t blame them. It’s it’s it’s just. It wasn’t anything that was done.

Meagan – Yeah, for sure, no blame.

Well, I have been really looking forward to our conversation. I,

one of my goals in this podcast is just normalizing faith journeys that they’re all different. They all look alike, and they’re unique to the individual. And they’re beautiful.

Julie – And.

Meagan – And so I’ve been looking forward to getting to know

your journey, and it’s ongoing right. There’s no end point.

Julie – Right. We talk so much about child development. But how much do we talk about adult development and.

Meagan – So true.

Julie – We are all in that adult development, and like faith, journey, sex journey, family journey. There’s so many journeys that we’re on.

Meagan – Yeah, just because we’re no longer sitting in a brick and mortar classroom doesn’t mean the learning has stopped.

Julie – We have so much. Yeah, we have so much access to information. Now.

Meagan – So one of the things I wanna normalize is the role that asking questions.

And allowing doubts, plays in our faith journey. Sometimes that can bring up people are afraid to bring those up. People are afraid to be the one to acknowledge out loud.

I don’t. I don’t know if that resonates with me. I don’t know if I agree with that, or that’s not been my experience, or that doesn’t align for me when specifically talking about

your faith right? And I have learned that we all have them and it doesn’t have to be a shameful thing. It doesn’t have to mean that we’re less of a believer, or we’re less faithful.

As a matter of fact, I mean, I’ve learned that doubt refines our faith. Doubt is a bridge to that next level of faith. And it doesn’t have to mean any of those things unless we’re choosing to believe that right? So when? How have you navigated questions and and doubts? Or you know, when different points in your life when when maybe you’ve been presented with

something that you’re not sure you weren’t sure about. You know. How did you navigate that? What was your approach.

Julie – I don’t think I learned that that was even a thing until my 30 s. And 40 s.

I mean, I was taught that obedience is the first law of heaven, you know, if you

follow what Mom and dad say, you’ll be blessed, which all was true at that point. But I don’t ever think that I was the type of child to question things. I just did what what I was told for the most part, I mean, of course, I did things that they probably wouldn’t have approved of but it wasn’t until I was much older that I started to question like, was that the right way to do this or that, or believe this or that? And I think doubt can be a space of discomfort. But, like you said, it’s all also a birthplace of growth.

Meagan – Yeah.

Julie – And and really learning that. Oh, I get to choose. I can question everything that I was taught from the my earliest memories till now and really decide. Do I want to believe that? And if I do, why? And if I don’t, why? And I think it’s a beautiful way to

just grow that adult development like question, the things that I was taught

just with an open space. No judgment and just decide is this something that is really important, and that I want to keep believing so it seems it was difficult, I think, more at the time, but it.

even when I have doubt, I allow myself to be in the doubt, because sometimes things just don’t make sense. And I’m okay. If they don’t make sense.

Meagan – Yeah, I love how you have framed that.

you know, from the standpoint of of mindset work of thought work.

I guess doubt could be a feeling.

It could also be

we could. We could put it as a circumstance and view it as a circumstance, right? There’s lots of ways we can look at doubt. But I really love what you said

about

how you gave yourself permission to look at this and decide. Do I want to continue to believe this.

or do I not any longer believe this?

And you know similarly to you, it wasn’t until later in life when I

really started

to give myself or permission, or even realize that could be a thing. It was thought work, you know, realizing that a belief

is a thought.

And it’s a thought that you’ve

thought over and over and over again, and it feels true because you believe it.

That doesn’t mean it’s any less meaningless. But there’s no harm, and it’s actually empowering to examine it.

I think there’s so much growth to be had, even if you come back and decide to continue believing that original

belief. Maybe.

Julie – Well, and it solidifies it. It’s like. Now I have a reason why I want to believe that where before it was.

Meagan – Yeah, I will.

Julie – Parents said so, or this was just what everyone was taught.

and which really holds a lot more water for me. It’s like, Oh, I’m doing this. I am choosing this. I have that intention, that agency.

Meagan – Hmm.

Julie – That choice.

Meagan – Yeah.

Julie – And that solidifies it for me.

Meagan – So in your work with with clients. You know what?

As a life coach, and in in your certifications and whatnot you know. What insight. Have you gained as to the role of

questions and doubts, you know? Or what influence has this process been placed on you?

Julie – Yeah, I think questions are so powerful wasn’t taught to question. I have friends who questioned everything, and I just didn’t feel like that was a thing for me to question, and I didn’t ever really learn how to question. But I think questions are really a gateway to growth.

really asking questions and in coaching, I mean, that’s what I do with my clients. Our our sessions are mostly questions me asking them questions so they can explore their beliefs, what they think, how they want to proceed like, and and so many of us have never

been asked questions and given the space to answer them and figure them out.

Meagan – So true that is so powerful. so

can you. You know you’ve you’ve coached a lot of people.

and I’m sure that includes yourself self coaching. But

let’s speak to this idea of giving oneself permission. Right? It’s one thing to realize. Oh.

I can continue to think this way to, you know. Keep this belief.

or I’ve learned something new over here. What do I want to do with that? Initially? That can be a scary place for some people.

Julie – It’s this wide open space that they’ve never really been in.

And like with with my sexual wellness, clients with sex coaching like I had one client where I was like, what were you taught about sex, or

or. you know, chastity or anything like that. And she’s like, Yeah, don’t be the crumbled up piece of paper I’m like, do you believe? Do you wanna believe that that that is even a thing? And she’s like no, I don’t. I was never a crumbled up piece of paper.

Or whatever we were taught growing up, you know, to scare us from not having sex before marriage. I mean.

what if we had taught it in such a different way, where people can just feel like.

oh, okay, this is this is what sex is.

And let people like just have their experience. We don’t need to shame people scare people into doing what we think they should do.

Meagan – So in the case of this client. I’m gonna say she, I don’t know for sure that it was a she, but.

Julie – It could be, I mean, I’ve probably had 30 or 40 clients who’ve used that example.

Meagan – So.

Julie – Don’t be the tutor piece of gum. The crumbled up piece of.

Meagan – Yeah.

Julie – Watted up $20. Bill.

Meagan – This client had to come to this place

of giving themselves permission to no longer

view themselves as the chewed gum or the crumbled up paper.

Right They had to come to this place

where they allowed that shift in their paradigm.

Julie – Right.

Meagan – Why do you think we struggle to give ourselves permission? I think this might be especially true of women. I I don’t know. I haven’t done any research on it, but.

Julie – Yeah. well, I think we’re taught to take care of everyone else do what everyone else needs. And then we kind of get the leftovers. We don’t even give ourselves permission to take time for ourselves, and I think, giving ourselves permission to be a human, to be a woman to be you know, whatever it is we wanna give ourselves permission to be is difficult, because we’re taught to look outward and take care of everyone else outside of us, and I think giving ourselves permission to even pay attention to ourselves. Wasn’t something that I was taught much and I had to grow into that because it was modeled, you know. Mothers in the seventies took care of everyone, and then they took care of themselves, later or last, or when no one else was watching and I think it could be something that women do struggle with. And and maybe it’s not as big of a problem now, with everything that we’re surrounded with like. We do know that it is important to take care of ourselves, but giving ourself permission to not feel guilty about. That might be another thing.

Meagan – Yeah, that is so true. We don’t give ourselves a lot of permission to put on hats of all sizes and shapes. That’s true. You know you are a master certified life coach. So you are.

You have had plenty of time to really do. Your work is what they call it really

examine some long-held beliefs and choose whether or not to keep those and

release the ones that no longer align with you or

serve you so in your personal faith journey. Well, let me preface this with a lot of times.

a significant event can kind of give us that

push. We could say. Maybe we’re feeling pretty comfortable.

No reason to question very much.

There’s a lot of current issues out there today that are causing

a lot of people of conservative Christian faith

to have questions and to have doubts whether it’s the role of women.

whether it’s the treatment of sexual abuse victims, whether it’s the way money is handled or the treatment of you know our queer siblings.

Can you think of a time like where you have had kind of a push? And you’ve really had some questions and doubts come up, and what you did with that, and

maybe even how your training helped you navigate it.

Julie – Yeah, I think that allow, like

seeing people in all different stages of life, all different parts of the world. In my

work with a life coach school, I mean, we’re a worldwide company. We see people from everywhere and from every walk of life I mean, I have not.

I cannot even consider any other type of work where I could have that exposure to so many people and so many different things, and and I think I don’t know that I have had an event, or or anything like that. Where I have questioned, I think

in my work I have been able to see humanity like really, really, really tough things. All the things that you’ve mentioned and just an outpouring of love that has just it’s placed in me when I connect with someone on a screen. I instantly see their humanity and and love them for that, and I think that it never really caused me to question anything, but it really solidified, like we are all together on this earth and in this, whatever this is.

Meagan – Yeah.

Julie – And that to me really has strengthened my faith, as like

like God, telling me that these are all of my children, and I love every single one of them, no matter who they are, what they’re going through, just that love that I’ve been able to feel now there have been times where I have a question like, is this, it

is this, why we’re here. And and it’s always like, yeah, and there’s more. And just wait. And you’re gonna you’re gonna see?

So I really have appreciated those glimpses into people’s lives who trust me enough to tell me what they’re going through and to be able to feel that love for them. There’s nothing like it.

Meagan – That is really beautiful.

That is so true. There are lots of clients and students at the life coach school from all over the world. So clearly, you’re able to create this safe space within the coaching container. You work with clients, one on one and that safe space, you know I define it as you’re you’re able to listen to them. Hold space for whatever it is that they’re feeling, whatever it is that they’re experiencing without judgment. And without jumping in to tell them what you think they need to do.

Julie – Right for that.

Meagan – They’re doing it the wrong way.

Julie – Yeah, I have no idea what.

Meagan – Yeah.

Julie – And that has been so helpful in navigating motherhood and grandmotherhood and

friends is like. I have no idea what their journey and their path is, but I can love them in their journey and their path and that’s been really, really exciting, and even turning that to myself, I can love myself in my own journey, in my own path.

Meagan – Yeah. And and I love within that container is

something you said at the very beginning. You ask questions. That’s how you help them

2, you know, raise their awareness of what’s going on for them.

you know, and to branch out a little. We you said we are all in this together.

And when I think of our faith communities

it! You know, I’ve talked with enough people. Each community is different.

Some have safer spaces. Within which to talk about

things that are on their mind or on their heart, that are bringing them pain that don’t make sense to them and and others you know it just varies. Some places are safe. Some are not right. And I like to talk about brave spaces.

Yeah. And brave spaces are different then save spaces. You can. because I know you’re a great life coach. You can ensure that you’re going to create a safe space with a client.

Julie – Yes.

Meagan – You go into a group situation where you’re a community, whether it could be a family community, it could be a faith community. You can’t guarantee that right. There’s so many moving parts. However we can be brave. We can step into whatever it means for us

to show up authentically with what we’re experiencing. so I would love to know your thoughts on this. You know where a brave space being a place where we’re all called to create something greater together. Is that possible? And you know how like. What are your thoughts on this.

Julie – Yeah, I think bravery is one of those really uncomfortable emotions. It’s it’s like courage, you know.

Meagan – Yeah, it. It.

Julie – It doesn’t feel great when we’re brave all the time afterwards it might feel better.

Meagan – I think you.

Julie – But that moment when we’re brave doesn’t feel very good a lot of the times, and I think that that’s so important, because if we can all step into that brave space

and show up as ourselves. It gives other people the same permission to do so. Sometimes when we’re brave, others follow. Sometimes we’re the only person choosing to be brave and to be vulnerable, and to say, You know what this is who I am. This is what I believe.

and I’m okay with that. And if you’re not, so be it.

But what a wonderful revolution to.

especially for your invitation to invite people to stand in their brave space.

Because I think it’s it’s definitely an active vulnerability.

And it. It shows that we’re willing to be known, and we’re willing to allow others to know us as we want them to know us, and it doesn’t feel good, and if we just expect that it’s not going to feel good, we might do it more often.

Meagan – yeah, it’s totally normal for our nervous system to get activated when we step outside of our comfort zone. Right. You know the 3 zones, our comfort zone, our zone of discomfort, and our zone of panic.

When we fill ourselves uncomfortable. That’s okay. I love what you said. If we can, just

it’s a I believe it’s a skill that we can grow to tolerate discomfort.

But there’s a difference between that and then acting out of the zone of panic. You know I highly discourage that. There’s no growth

that happens if you’re acting, and you’re from the zone, and you’re in the zone of panic. And I would add, this is where hiring your own life coach is, can be so helpful.

just like you said. Sometimes others will follow suit when you step into your vulnerability. Sometimes. Not it can be very helpful to have

that somebody who has your back, somebody who you can go to and process. And how did this go? And what do you think, and what you know.

Julie – Yeah, I have my own coach, and I am so grateful because when things come up it’s like, Oh, okay, I have this person that I’m safe with.

Meagan – Yeah.

Julie – Who will listen? Who will ask me questions? Who will help me process? And

it’s it’s amazing cause. Sometimes I can’t do it on my own.

Yeah, a lot of times I can’t, because I’m so in the weeds.

Meagan – Yeah, tell us, tell us what you mean by that? That’s a that’s a phrase that I, we hear often is like coaches. But tell us what it means to be in the weeds.

Julie – Well, I like to explain it. As you know, we have the prefrontal cortex part of our brain, and then what we call the lizard brain, or the primitive brain, and and that primitive brain of mine. I finally decided to name her during my master coach training, because she was there so often and so loud, and the self judgment was just top of mind all the time. Her name’s Lola. I I think she’s great now, but then I did not like her. but listening to the primitive part of my brain so much. Often I would not activate that adult prefrontal cortex. I was living in that panic place a lot of the time and in the weeds with that pre or that primitive brain is not a fun place to be. And so I finally decided, okay, I need to have a relationship with these parts of my brain. That adult brain needed to come in and be the caretaker of that primitive brain. And there’s nothing wrong with Lola and what she’s doing. She’s just doing what she’s trained to do. Keep me safe, keep me comfortable. Not expend a lot of energy like

her job is to keep me in the same pattern of you know, consistency and just no, no growth but my adult brain, my prefrontal cortex. That’s the part where growth is planned. It’s it’s logical. It it

helps, you know. Decide how we are going to proceed and marrying the 2 at least. Like just having that adult brain come in and say, Yeah, of course, this is uncomfortable. And that’s okay. And this is what we’re gonna do. And I’m gonna take care of you and and we’ll make it. And so being it, I, when I’m in the weeds, I’m like thinking with my primitive brain more often, and not accessing that adult prefrontal cortex.

Meagan – Forecast.

Julie – Part of me.

Meagan – Yes. yeah. Primitive brain is. When I mentioned earlier, we can get activated when we’re stepping into our vulnerability. That’s that’s definitely.

Julie -: And it seems very.

Meagan – Ola.

Julie – Yeah.

Meagan – I’d love. Now I gotta name mine. I’m gonna be thinking about that for a while.

Julie – Yeah, I mean, I I don’t even know anyone with that name. But I just like the way it sounds. And and I looked up the meaning, and it I have it on my wall is Lola means Our Lady of Sorrows, and it went on to describe understanding the sorrows in life is necessary to experience joy.

This is an opportunity for me to be in tune with my emotions. And I thought, That’s perfect, because there’s that relationship where she wants to be comfortable, and the other part.

Meagan – Like.

Julie – We want to grow.

Meagan – Yeah, c-.

Julie – So great.

Meagan – You bring up emotions. That’s another really important part of our work, helping our clients feel those uncomfortable emotions most don’t have a problem feeling the joy and excitement, and the happiness and whatnot. But

tell us a little bit about what’s what that’s like for you helping cause we’re not really taught to feel our feelings. We’re taught, not even taught that it’s a thing, or that it’s okay, or what that

might look like.

Julie – Yeah. And I think many of us, from a very young age. turn them off or suppress them. We don’t know what to do with them, I think you know, watching my children raise my grandchildren. It’s like, Oh, there is so much more room for emotion in parenting now.

which is a beautiful thing. It’s like, Oh, we’ve got some big emotions, you know. Let’s talk about it. Let’s it’s okay to feel angry. It’s okay to feel sad. It’s okay to whatever. And here are some ways that we can get that out. And I remember when I was in therapy, anger was my emotion of choice. I had a more difficult time feeling the joy, feeling, the happiness, feeling those good emotions. I didn’t know how to do that.

And I think, when we give ourselves the opportunity to even become more emotionally literate.

so so good.

Meagan – Yes, and and as far as a faith journey is concerned. I think it’s so important to become more in tune with our emotions so that we can realize that just because something is uncomfortable, just because something is causing us to feel a little bit anxious. A little nervous

doesn’t mean we’ve lost our divine direction doesn’t mean we’ve lost that connection with God, or with the Spirit, or the Holy Ghost.

An uncomfortable feeling is an uncomfortable feeling, and it’s important to get behind

what that feeling, what? What is behind that feeling, I guess, and not automatically assume that

you’re not in Yeah. Spiritually speaking, you’re you’re kind of off, if not.

Julie – Many of us, I mean, are in this space where we may not really feel a lot of

emotion or spiritual. I don’t know spiritual influence.

and I think I used to worry a lot about that. I had to figure out how I felt the spirit, because.

like my husband, he’s like I when I feel the spirit, I’m just warm from head to toe, and I’m thinking that sounds horrible. It sounds like a hot flash, you know, for me. It’s just more of this calm or just certainty, or or it’s it’s nothing big. And it’s like, Oh, okay, it’s more of a thought in my mind rather than a feeling in my body, and I had to come to the point where it’s okay to feel the spirit or or piece the way that I feel it. It doesn’t have to look like everyone else’s experience.

Meagan – Yeah, so true. so important.

and that’s all a part of of getting to know oneself. That’s why I love

coaching work so much so we can learn what is uniquely us.

And and love that, and embrace that, and celebrate it

versus compare it to. Well. you know, this person said, it needs to look like this.

Julie – Yeah, and and just having that knowledge that nothing’s wrong with me.

Meagan – Hmm.

Julie – Broken. This is the way I receive inspiration or direction, or whatever it is, it doesn’t have to look like anyone else’s. We are all unique human beings who

get to do it. The way that we’ve figured out how to do it. There’s no manual for this.

Meagan – Yeah. yeah, that’s that’s so beautiful. I love that so much.

I love your insight. It’s  I know it’s been super helpful for me and hope that it is for those that are listening. A final question that I always like to ask my guests, do you know the name of my podcast. Is beyond the shadow of doubt. I picked it on purpose, dropped the A on purpose.

Because I wanted to start, to see doubt as a.

not to me a shadow over it is like in some negativity, or that it’s taboo right? So I’m wanting to look beyond that. So what does it mean to you to live beyond the shadow of doubt.

It’s my question.

Julie – I think it means that doubt is going to be with me my whole life in some way, shape or form and if I accept the fact that it’s gonna be there

as part of my life I see it as a circle, and that I can step anywhere out of that shadow of the doubt on that circle and still feel like I’m okay, like, I don’t have to be rid of it in order to live. I can live with doubt, and I can. I can have that with me. And it’s okay. There’s nothing wrong with doubt, and I can rely on the things that I am sure of, and still have doubt

in any part of my life.

Meagan – I love that so much. We can take it with us. We don’t have to.

We can hold. We can hold 2 things at once.

Julie – Yeah.

Meagan – Love, the imagery of the circle.

Julie – Yeah.

Meagan – So we’re.

Julie – And if that circle has a shadow, we get to walk in it and through it, and away from it, and towards it. I mean there’s no one right way to do doubt.

Meagan – Hmm, that’s awesome. I love that so much.

is there anything else you can think of that you haven’t had a chance to address that you would like to share with us anything else on your mind.

Julie – I I love how you’re normalizing, having doubt. I think that is something that is so important that I never grew up with. I just.

I didn’t even think of this, but I’m just so grateful that you are out there saying that it’s normal to have doubt it’s normal to have questions. Ask the questions. That’s how we learn. That’s how we grow. It’s okay to be where you are when we accept where we are. It makes us so

much more ready to progress and learn and and take the next little step, whatever the right step is for us, that next step and we can still have doubt and take the step. And it’s okay. And we can take the next step, whatever it is.

Meagan – And it doesn’t mean anything’s gone wrong.

Julie – No, no! What if it was just like something that we accepted as as part of this human experience, just like uncertainty.

Meagan – Yes, agreed.

Julie – Okay. Yeah.

Meagan – Agreed. 100% agreed.

Well, I that’s amazing. Thank you so much for that. Just a few more quick questions. So we can get to know you. And seriously, just looking for one or 2 word answers just the first thing that comes to mind. So tell us what your favorite book is, Julie.

Julie – Well, right now. It’s probably the Boundaries book by cloud.

and the one was

Meagan – the Big pencil on it.

Julie – Yeah, yeah, I think that is.

Meagan – That one.

Julie – Yep, so good.

Meagan – That is are you an introvert or an extrovert?

Julie – Introvert.

Meagan – Okay.

Julie – Totally and completely.

Meagan – And who is your favorite artist.

Julie – Oh, I don’t even I don’t even know if I have a good answer for that. I couldn’t give you an answer for that.

Meagan – Too many to to name.

Julie – Yeah. And it, it’s just there’s so many different phases of life where I think this is beautiful. This is beautiful. And this is beautiful. So yeah, I couldn’t give you a good answer on that one.

Meagan – No worries. Are you a night owl or a morning mark.

Julie – I would say neither.

Julie – I like going to bed, and I early, and I like sleeping in. So I think I’m just like, you know. 8 to like 2 in the 8 am. To 2 pm, kinda that’s my time. So yeah.

Meagan – Best answer I have ever gotten for that question. I love that so much.

Julie – I could go to bed at 9 and sleep till 9. I would, but.

Meagan – I don’t. My gosh, that is hilarious. I’m a friend. Okay, do you do still, or carbonated water, or you diet soda fan.

Julie – I do just regular plain old water, my favorite beverage in the world. Chocolate milk comes in in second, but.

Meagan – Certainly.

Julie – I’m a water person. Yeah.

Meagan – Milk. Okay? And do you have a celebrity crush.

Julie – Hmm! Well, my husband would say, yeah, and it’s him. But I don’t think anyone

he is so I think Hugh Jackman is really great so talented in so many ways.

Meagan – And he has an Australian accent.

Julie – Of course, very nice to listen to.

Meagan – And finally, the furthest place that you have traveled.

Julie – I would say Singapore.

Meagan – Oo.

Julie – Super fun place to go.

Meagan – One day. I want to go there.

Julie – Yeah, fine.

Meagan – Did you just love all the street food.

Julie – Oh, yeah, it was amazing. We were there for 2 weeks. It was just very clean, very safe.

Meagan – Hmm.

Julie – Very beautiful. so interesting.

Meagan – That is so cool.

Julie – Huh!

Meagan – Well, Julie, if folks wanted to connect with you or reach out.

Julie – Yeah.

Meagan – What would be the best way that they could do that.

Julie – The best way is to find me on my website. It’s Julie Merrill coaching.com.

Meagan – Okay.

Julie – And there’s lots of different ways to connect with me on that. So if they want to have a free 30 min, consult, call I I do coach on on sex, education and sex coaching, but I also coach on everything else, because even when we talk about those things, there’s always lots of things that come up with relationships and money and pick a thing so open to coaching on everything. Cause that’s what I do.

Meagan – It’s all intertwined. So is that Merrill, ME. Double RIL.

Julie – 2 l. So MERR ILL yes.

Meagan – I will leave that in the show notes.

Julie – Thank you.

Meagan – Julie. It has been a pleasure to have you today. Thank you for making time out of your schedule today.

Julie – Great time. Thanks for having me. It’s been so fun.